Thursday, November 20, 2014

SnapSafe offered me a refund.

I just thought it would be fair to say that after expressing my concerns about the quality of this product to SnapSafe they offered to refund me money if I return it.  Well, that's a nice gesture, if this was a book, DVD, or other similarly transportable item.  Returning an 800 lb+ steel box is not exactly a simple logistical process, especially when my wife barely made it up the stairs with me the first time.  No thanks SnapSafe, how about you correct your deceptive advertising policies first and come out and say that you sell a 14 gauge safe with some reinforcements.  That would be more acceptable to me.

Tuesday, October 28, 2014

Installed, and sore.

After a lonnnnnnnnng night of moving parts to their final location it's installed:




Let me tell you this.  This safe is 46" wide, 30" deep, 59" high, assembled.  The closet measures 33" deep trim-to-trim, 47.5" wide, trim-to-trim.  Managing to get all pieces into this size closet was a game of Mega Tetris.  Assembling it myself since the wife wasn't so happy about a big chunk of metal in the room didn't help either, but I finally did it, and it fits!  I decided to not use the outlet I put in.  I thought I could just unbolt and run it later...but after doing Mega-Uber-Platinum-Deluxe Tetris with the interior pieces and the 'fire lining blankets', lets just say that the GoldenRod will likely go back to Amazon when it arrives tomorrow.

So, some final notes:

I'm still a bit irritated at the misleading claim that this is a 7 gauge safe, it's not.  It's probably 14 gauge, maybe 12 in some places, and in some doubled up, but only tack welded together.  I'm left feeling that I paid a LOT of money for essentially an extra large Sentry Safe.  Would I do this again?  No.  Does it fit my needs, probably, something stronger would be even more difficult to get installed in that location.  If I did it again I would likely go with something heavier and put it in the basement.  The wife said, after helping me lug the rear 46x59x4" panel up the stairs, "This is staying with the house."  So I guess an upgrade might happen in the future...

Assembling this in a standing up position complicates things about 10 fold.  Getting the metal bits together was not so bad, you just need sufficient space to clear the bolts and maybe wear a helmet when you're using your head to support the top piece, but it paled in comparison with the annoying interior pieces and dealing with the fire blankets.  The problem with the interior pieces is that things are quite tight and combined with the weird angles you have to use to get the sides in with gravity and needing to get the fire blankets in and...well, it's a bit crazy.  I finally grabbed a roll of double sided tape and secured the blankets to the sidewalls, thus giving my an arm or two back to smash the interior pieces into position.  Tip: Lay down in the safe and just smash them in place with your feet, it's easier.

I have extreme hesitation as to the durability of this to survive a simple crow-bar attack.  The so called "Non Breach Seal" dead bolt on the right side is not very long, so it does not engage very far on that edge.  It's also set back a bit and I'm afraid that the gap would allow too much play in the door.  On the live bolt side, just pressing the bolts in with my fingers with mild pressure resulted in the top bolt sliding back in (when locked) more than I like.  This probably worries me more than the steel thickness because a thief's first try is likely to be a crowbar right on the door edge and I just don't know if it'll handle this.

If I were to do this purchase over, I would get a Sturdy Safe in 4 gauge, period.  More steel, heavier honest construction, oh and the lock actually has something protecting it.

Monday, October 27, 2014

This is NOT 7 Gauge! It's 14 gauge doubled up in SOME places...

Despite the product arriving undamaged, I was quite dismayed to see that the steel they use is NOT 7 gauge for the sides, and top etc.  What you have is thinner steel (14 gauge) with some middle portions tack welded in place to 'make' it thicker:



Not what I expect after spending this much money on a product.  What you have here is essentially a large Sentry Safe...  The welds are so small and inconsequential that I doubt it would take much pounding on the outer skin to cause damage and break through.  Snap Safe, you should re-word your website to indicates that you utilize 2 layers of 14 gauge and NOT say you're using 7 gauge.


Delivery Day

Awaiting freight delivery, pics to follow...

While we wait, here is a reverse timeline of events for those interested in turn-around times, note that the 'Has Shipped' E-Mail was received after the item started moving:

10/27/201409:04:56Shipment out for delivery to consignee in [REDACTED]
10/24/201405:58:00Shipment arrived at PITT OHIO destination terminal in [REDACTED]
10/23/201421:09:00Departed from intermediate terminal in [REDACTED]
10/23/201417:07:28Shipment arrived at PITT OHIO origin terminal in [REDACTED]
10/23/201413:50:49Pickup - Departure.
10/23/201413:42:31Arrived at shipper pickup location in [REDACTED]

Has Shipped E-Mail 10/24/2014 @ 7am
Ordered 10/21/2014 @ 6pm

How the Super Titan XXL Arrives:


Box measures 28" x 50" x 63" and is strapped to a wooden pallet.

Inside this box you will find another box:


Within this box:


To the right is a large box containing all of the interior components, and a large piece of foam:



Overall the package is well packed and everything was received undamaged.

Door and frame:



Sunday, October 26, 2014

Prepping the Location

In prep for the delivery tomorrow I installed a new outlet in the closet to permit the installation of a GoldenRod or similar device:


Friday, October 24, 2014

Call from Pitt Ohio at ~1pm

Received call from Pitt Ohio around 1pm requesting delivery scheduling.  Called them around 6-7pm and arranged delivery for Monday the 27th between 11am and 2pm.  Awaiting delivery.

Shipment and tracking info received from SnapSafe @7am

Received shipment notification from SnapSafe with tracking number.  Mixup in tracking number in E-mail, didn't appear to be proper number.  E-Mail contained some information on assembly including a link to the YouTube video, which I was already familiar with, but nice that they send it over.

Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Order placed 10/21/2014 @ 6pm

Placed order for SnapSafe Super Titan XXL on 10/21/2014 at 6pm for $2,099 +$400 shipping.  The price was hard to swallow as this is around the same price as a Sturdy Safe of the same or larger size, but I will be able to install it myself and not involve a 3rd party in the installation process.  It'll also fit in a closet for concealment.  This unit has a SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme combination dial and electronic lock.  Not sure how well this is constructed and how it will hold up, I may end up replacing it with a standard dial lock at some point, we'll see how it looks.

From the SnapSafe site:

Super Titan XXL
(Lock displayed is not lock that is used)

Wednesday, October 1, 2014

SnapSafe Super Titan XXL Review

When researching a gun safe to purchase I was intrigued with the idea of a 'modular' safe.  This is a container that is assembled in such a way that it cannot be taken apart easily without being opened, it's modular and built up with various pieces.  The advantages of this design is that it is MUCH easier to put into place without the use of specialized equipment or involving numerous helpers.

I came upon a few potential options for this style safe:

Zanotti Armor
Long backlog, thinner steel than I liked.  Width not wide enough to be secure in closet, but had taller height option.

Dakota Interloc-XP
Too small, lighter weight, didn't get 'warm fuzzies' on the construction/quality.

SnapSafe

SnapSafe intrigued me, as they used thicker steel (7 gauge) on all portions of the container.  So after much pondering (I was heavily leaning towards a Sturdy Safe, an excellent option if you're not looking for modular by the way...) and finally placed my order for a SnapSafe Super Titan XXL, their largest size at the time of this post.  This size is about 46" wide, 30" deep and 59" tall.  A perfect fit for a closet in the house which is 48" wide and about 34" deep.

Researching online I found very few reviews detailing the safe.  So I created this site in the hopes to share my experiences, from ordering, dealing with customer service, to shipping, delivery and installation.  I will attempt to document as much as possible here.